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MessageSujet: Güle güle, Laiklik...   Sam 19 Jan - 23:27

Lu dans Today's Zaman (quotidien anglophone turc) :

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=132019

Citation:

Scarf freedom assured of political support
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<tr><td class=resim-alt-yazi>MHP leader Bahçeli gave support to PM Erdoğan’s efforts to solve the scarf problem. </TD></TR></TABLE>A proposal voiced on Thursday by the Nationalist Movement Party (MHP) concerning the removal of the headscarf ban has caused great agitation in political circles.
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The MHP's suggestion comes on the heels of remarks by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan that even if the headscarf was a political symbol, it should not be banned. The MHP would like to see the ban not applied to those being offered public services; rather it should only apply to those who provide such services. This is likely to ease the steps the ruling Justice and Development Party (AK Party) plans to take in this regard.
The AK Party has previously stated that the headscarf issue will be solved as part of efforts to draft a new constitution, but the MHP proposal may serve as a big boost to the government, especially at a time when it has been feeling the pressure of pro-establishment forces. However, unlike the AK Party, the MHP proposal argues that the ban should be solved by amending Article 10 of the current Constitution without waiting for a new constitution. AK Party executives are seemingly warm to the proposal and have already established a commission to examine it.

Nihat Ergün, deputy chairman of the AK Party parliamentary group, told Today's Zaman that the party is interested in the MHP proposal. "But we are currently trying to figure out whether an amendment to Article 10 of the constitution will be sufficient for the removal of the ban. We have set up a commission to do this. We have designed a special arrangement in Article 42 of the new constitution. The MHP's proposal may be treated together with our proposal in Article 42. We have established contact with the MHP and may set up a joint commission to discuss the proposals. Depending on the recommendations of the commission, we may pass it on to Parliament," he said.

Path cleared for new constitution

Salih Kapusuz, the former deputy chairman of the AK Party parliamentary group, maintained that efforts on the drafting of the new constitution have nearly come to a halt because of the headscarf issue. "The MHP's attitude has served to remove the biggest obstacle before the new constitution. As in the presidential elections, the MHP has again assumed a democratic stance and helped the country avert another embarrassing practice. Now it will be easier to implement the constitutional amendments. There were several critical issues that have been tangling up the drafting process. The headscarf issue was one of them. All political parties may eventually arrive at an agreement over other amendments to the constitution. The new constitution will be introduced to Parliament as soon as possible so that all political parties can express their views on it," he said.

The MHP has proposed inserting the following sentence into Article 10 of the current constitution: "In all their actions and in the rendering of public services and in the benefiting from these services, state organs and administrative bodies shall observe the principle of equality before the law." The MHP argues that there is no legal provision banning the headscarf and that the groups who claim that it is banned tend to present a decision rendered by the Constitutional Court in 1989 as proof.

They believe this amendment will bring the right to benefit from a higher education, which is a public service, to the scope of the constitutional principle of equality. The MHP’s intention in making this proposal is to prevent the AK Party from using this issue as a tool to gain political advantage. The MHP also wants the amendment to be implemented immediately.

“It is our intention that the headscarf issue be solved before the drafting of the new constitution. We will not allow them to stir public opinion by mixing the headscarf issue with the new constitution,” said Tunca Toskay, MHP deputy chairman and Antalya deputy. “If the AK Party really wants the headscarf issue to be solved, it must support our proposal. Our proposal is designed to put an end to all controversies about this problem. The AK Party may draft a separate proposal. Then, we may set up a joint commission to discuss technicalities concerning the proposal. I believe we can compromise on the subject; however, we are doubtful of the AK Party’s sincerity,” Mehmet Şandır, MHP parliamentary group deputy chairman, told Today’s Zaman.

CHP’s Selvi: Will they have to remove it after university?

The pro-establishment and staunchly secular main opposition party Republican People’s Party (CHP) is the harshest opponent of the AK Party and MHP alliance on the headscarf issue, but, given the majority of the seats these parties command in Parliament, it does not have plans to seek legal measures against such an amendment. In other words, the CHP is not expected to take this issue to the Constitutional Court as was the case with the presidential elections. However, it does seek to create a political resistance to their move.

CHP Deputy Chairman Cevdet Selvi accused the MHP of starting to use the headscarf issue as a political symbol just like the AK Party. “This move is politically motivated, attempting to increase support in elections. This mentality will not bring any good to our country. Our women who wear headscarves will attend and graduate from universities and then they will be told to remove their headscarf [in order to work]. Can this be said?

“They are not sincere, they are not serious. These are all politically motivated attempts. As local elections approach, it seems the MHP is following in the footsteps of the AK Party in seeking gains from this move. This proposal can be read as the MHP’s proposal to the AK Party for using this issue together as a tool for political gain. This is not a healthy approach.

“Our traditions dating back a thousand years do not contain the headscarf. Nobody can argue to the contrary. This is an emergent issue of the last 20 years. This is a fashionable style. It is a political symbol, as admitted by the prime minister. It is a lifestyle imposed on believers as the symbol of a political party. It is a problem that they have been unable to solve for five years, and they want to use for another five years. What they do is unnecessary discrimination. It will create contention when it is least desired. We have no intention of using these values as tools for our political goals. We believe it is a great mistake in spiritual and political terms to talk about this issue. Given their majority, they can solve this problem, or they might think that they have solved it. As a true Muslim, I have no belief in them,” he told Today’s Zaman.

DSP: Constitutional solution will complicate crisis

The Democratic Left Party (DSP) assumes a position not very different from that of the CHP with respect to the removal of the headscarf ban. DSP Deputy Chairman Hasan Macit maintains that any amendment made to the constitution with a view to solving the headscarf issue will be the wrong thing to do. “We have been advocating that this issue should not be used for political purposes. We have frequently reiterated that there will be no problem if it is not used for political purposes. At this point, our competent bodies have not convened to make an assessment of the proposal; however, we are cool toward any constitutional solution. This would be utterly wrong. In the future other groups may voice other demands referring to the constitution. A solution put into effect through the constitution may make things worse than the current deadlock. The crisis may become more complicated,” he said. Responding to the CHP’s question of whether women who wear a headscarf will be told to remove their headscarves after graduation, Ergün said: “After graduation, they don’t have to work for public offices. They may be employed in the private sector. Acquiring a profession is one thing, and engaging in that profession in a public office is another.”

DTP supports removal of ban

The pro-Kurdish Democratic Society Party (DTP) does not seem to have a uniform stance concerning the headscarf issue. Without a proper party policy on this subject, some DTP deputies advocate that the ban should be removed, while others opt for a more reserved discussion of the subject. Regarding the MHP proposal Sırrı Sakık, DTP Mus deputy, told Today’s Zaman: “I support all freedoms. We will give support to steps toward this end. An elderly voter who cast his vote for me in the July 22 elections said to me, ‘I will vote for you, but if you do not support Abdullah Gül in Parliament, I will revoke my support.’ We may contribute to the removal of the ban in this respect.” However, Sakık noted that he had not examined the MHP’s proposal in detail.

DTP Şırnak deputy Hasip Kaplan, on the other hand, said, after studying the proposal in detail: “The scope of the MHP’s proposal is extensive. This arrangement could be used for other purposes. Therefore, its scope must be narrowed.”

Meanwhile the Council of State released a statement on Friday afternoon opposing discussions over the possible removal of the ban on headscarves on university campuses. The statement said if the drafting of a new constitution is not going to be consistent with the fundamental and unchangeable principles of the current constitution and past judicial rulings, it would go against the progress the republic has made. The statement emphasized that the Republic of Turkey is a democratic, secular and social state of law. A similar statement had been issued on Thursday by the Supreme Court of Appeals.

19.01.2008
ERCAN YAVUZ ANKARA



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MessageSujet: Re: Güle güle, Laiklik...   Dim 20 Jan - 0:52

Salut Ferd,

Ce que j'en pense...

Ce que j'en pense c'est que cette nouvelle coincide avec une autre tombée il y a 4 jours, une réunion entre Erdogan, Sarko, et Merkel qui sont trois grands champions du baisage de laïcité, et qui devrait se produire en mai.

Ca coincide aussi pas mal avec l'arrivée du mini traité européen pour imposer d'office aux peuples un traité raccourci de celui qui avait été soumis et jugé par le peuple français anti-laïque !!!

Les masques tombent... et l'Europe se dessine : elle sera finalement peut etre avec la Turquie si celle ci accepte d'abandonner son héritage laïque ! Plus que jamais les laïques de France doivent se serrer les coudes avec les laïques de Turquie car il n'y aucun peuple laïque dans toute l'Europe !
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MessageSujet: t   Ven 25 Jan - 15:06

Le feuilleton de l'Alliance de circonstances MHP-AKP se poursuit (dépêche Reuters) :

La Turquie se prépare à lever l'interdiction sur le port du voile

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(EuroNews - 24/01/2008)

Oter son foulard avant de pénétrer dans l'enceinte d'une université. Un geste aujourd'hui obligatoire en Turquie. Mais pour combien de temps encore ? Le compte à rebours semble engagé. L'AKP, parti au pouvoir, vient en effet d'annoncer qu'il avait trouvé un accord avec une formation de l'opposition en vue de la levée de l'interdiction du voile dans les universités.

Même s'il a renforcé sa majorité au parlement lors des législatives anticipées en juillet dernier, le Premier ministre Recep Tayyip Erdogan a besoin d'un allié pour pourvoir amender la Constitution, étape incontournable pour lever l'interdiction du voile dans les université.
Ce soutien, l'AKP l'a trouvé dans le MHP, le parti d'action nationaliste. Troisième formation du pays, le MHP se situe très à droite, et propose un discours aux accents parfois xénophobes et autoritaires.
Les milieux kémalistes tels l'armée, l'appareil judiciaire et les recteurs d'universités, très attachés au principe de laïcité, rejètent catégoriquement la levée de l'interdiction du voile. Ils accusent l'AKP de vouloir islamiser le pays. REcep Tayyip Erdogan s'en défend et affirme considérer la question du voile en terme de respect des droits fondamentaux.</TD></TR></TABLE>




http://www.ataturquie.asso.fr/static.php?op=actualites_080124_8&npds=1

Ce n'est guère étonnant quand on sait que le kémalisme politique ne représente au plus que 25% de l'électorat turc et ce, depuis 1983.
L'agite-propre de l'armée ne peut pas faire oublier que 2007-2008 n'est plus 1997 et encore moins 1980. Ce qui est une bonne nouvelle pour la société civile turque à moyen-terme, mais pas nécessairement pour le Kémalisme qui va devoir (enfin, ajouteraisje) se prendre en main sur le plan politique.
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